Sunday, October 28, 2007

Sweden Hates Convenience

I have never seen a garbage disposal in Sweden. Ever. They have to exist somewhere. I’m absolutely convinced of it. I can’t imagine Americans being the only ones who appreciate the convenience of just throwing all of your food down a drain then chopping it all up with the push of a button. Or maybe it is just an appliance for the upper class. Or the lazy. Which could really span a wide swath of consumers if you think about it.

Garbage disposals tend to spoil a person. I didn’t have one in college either. It’s awful. Food sits in the trash and grows. Food is supposed to stop growing once it is my kitchen. But without a garbage disposal it doesn’t. It lives on. It stinks. It molds. It’s just really gross. With the growth comes all kinds of weird bugs. Fruit flys for example. Where do they come from? How do they appear on the 12th story of an apartment building just a couple of days after I throw an apple core into the trash?

I blame the whole Swedish garbage culture. They make you sort out everything. Paper, cardboard, clear glass, colored glass, metal, batteries, food. They are relentless. And when you have to sort out everything it’s not good to be able to just throw it down the drain. My apartment building tells me (that’s right, it’s big, purple and orange, and it tells me stuff) that sorting out all of this food actually provides electricity. Maybe. But is it worth it? I don’t like stinky food in a small apartment.

These are the sorts of things that people should tell you before moving somewhere. Are garbage disposals standard? Yes or no, it could be a deal breaker to some people. So if you’re planning on making the move to Sweden, beware. Garbage disposals in Sweden are as rare as me dressing up as a mountain yeti for Halloween. Which has only happened once. Keep that in mind. And Welcome to Sweden.

31 Insightful Comments:

Tobias said...

Garbage disposals are illegal in your new country.

Welcome to Sweden!

Smek this! said...

Yes, it's a secret stuff here. The new apartment I'm about to move has carbage carrying included in rent, but I still haven't found any place where to put them. No small holes in walls either.

MOGLi said...

What do you mean no small holes in walls, smek this? ever heard of window before? LOL.

Mrs CeCrux said...

what Smek means is that a lot of apartment beuildings here in sweden have holes in the walls out in the hallways where u throw your trash out. Then it makes its way all the way to the basement to the trash by force of gravity..basically it just falls there.

You know what? i agree with you..where are the garbage disposals at???????

I have many discussions with my husband about the strange ways of life here because, well they are just strange...but i am sure they think we amaericans are just as bad. i always get asked why i came here when the USA is better.

Mrs CeCrux said...

dont ask why i cat spell...its 6am

smek this! said...

Mogli, that's the medieval way to handle carbage. Although it may be in use in Gamla stan. Actually those narrow roads there are not roads, they are sewer canals which lead to the sea! That's why the locals use umbrellas while walking there. Don't put this to Wiki :)

MOGLi said...

Oh, of course I was not being serious about the window! (me and Smek have this "alternative" (not weird) sense of humour so excuse me). I agree mrs. cecrux that there are indeed lots of things in Sweden that seems weird to a foreigner. I've been living in this country for five years now, and I can say that I still haven't got the hang of a lot of Swedish ways.

Mrs CeCrux said...

oh god i am an idiot Mogli.. when i read what u said about the windows. i didnt read that YOU posted it.. for some dumb reason i assumed it was the owner of this blog.lol

anywho...i just discussed the garbage disposal with my swedish husband he says maybe you will get hurt...and my reply is i could get hurt using the coffee machine by burning my hand on the hot plate..yet they still have them..Like im gunna stick my hand down the drain with a disposal in there!

Living here sometimes is like walking on a glass plate thats paper thin..you must be so careful because god forbid something terrible happens..sheesh! grow up in america once! back in the 70's when i grew up you rode a bike full speed without a helmet..im still living.obviously.

Mrs CeCrux said...

ehh Mogli..ur are also in Göteborg???

smek this! said...

Yes, Smek and Moge were only kidding here. Sorry, Hair, if it offended you. Seems our nick names have also nick names :)

Ella said...

They're bad for the enivornment those garbage disposal things, but if it helps I can tell you the sex of the fruit flies (the one thing I learnt from my science degree)

The Hairy Swede said...

hmmm... garbage disposals elicit all kinds of reactions.

fruit flies should love sweden. at least then they have plenty of old food since there are no garbage disposals. and then ella can find out the sex of them. clealy sweden is the place for ella.

Anonymous said...

I live in Sweden and have grabage disposal! Guess, I'm one of those lucky few! hehe

The Hairy Swede said...

I'm so glad to know you exist!

Anonymous said...

Why would you need a garbage disposal when you have a hole in the wall in the stairs that you can just conveniently throw your garbage? Garbage disposal is bad for the environment and can get locked up if you put too much garbage in it....

The Hairy Swede said...

strangely enough I imagine that your argument that "garbage disposal is bad for the environment and can get locked up if you put too much garbage in it" can also be applied to that hole in the wall where you throw your garbage. Can't imagine some of the stuff people throw down there is good for the environment and if you put too much in it gets plugged up...

Anonymous said...

Just to clarify, no the hole in the wall doesn't get plugged up. Maybe if you throw like, a ton of garbage in one day... I'm not saying the "hole in the wall" is completely environmental-friendly but it's definetly more environmental-friendly than a garbage disposal. The most environmental-friendly solution is the tiny little "houses" that can be found below many apartment buildings where you can sort all the garbage and blah blah... Usually I wouldn't bother making a discussion out of such a boring and minor issue but God, I'm bored right now...

The Hairy Swede said...

Well, hopefully this blog can bring some enjoyment to your day. Even if it does lead to a discussion about garbage.

Anonymous said...

No, we don't hate the convienience but we love the envirement! Figure that one out

The Hairy Swede said...

I can't figure it out. I'm American.

And I feel confident that there other ways of helping the environment that would have a bigger impact than not using a garbage disposal.

Nea said...

Oh I just have to make a little comment here.. I am born and raised in Sweden, and so far I have never, ever seen a garbage disposal. I don't know what it is, what it looks like. I can somewhat imagine the functionality, but until now I never realised that you would need one! ^^

Thank's for an interesting blog!

Hairy Swede said...

oh its a wonderful technology... but you're right. they are rare in sweden. like a unicorn.

Anonymous said...

I'm an American of Swedish and Swedish-Finnish grandparents who lives in San Francisco.

I don't have a garbage disposer in my kitchen sink and I don't have a garbage chute (the hole in the wall) in my apartment building, but I also don't wait 12 days to take my garbage out from my small apartment, either.

San Franciscans are weird Americans because we separate our garbage so that it can be recycled, and we have composting. The city garbage service picks up food scraps we put into separate garbage bins to be composted.

That way, hopefully the only thing we put into the ground is compost, rather than finding more places to put giant holes in the ground to fill with our (unsorted) garbage.

Of course the other option is to use the Grand Canyon. We already take all of the water out of it before the Mexican border, so we may as well fill it back up with something. Oh, that's right, Bush isn't President anymore, never mind.

Hairy Swede said...

The two cities that I spent most of my time living in in the US were similar. We separated out all kinds of recycling. And my family has a compost family. So I struggle sometimes to identify with the whole wasteful American idea when it comes to garbage.

And the Bush thing, really? We're still doing that?

Anonymous said...

It's not a matter of convenience or personal advantadge. it just can't be.
thinking that avoiding garbage sorting might be a preferable choice just because it's quicker and avoids undesired scents is kind of...selfish.
consider that you could use smaller bags to collect left overs, so that they would fill up faster than bigger bags, obliging you to get rid of them more frequently, avoiding the stink.
I assume you get out of your apartment at least once a day, so taking the food bag with you shouldn't be an unbearable effort.
moreover, it's unbelievable (sort of) that you can't just see the benefits of garbage sorting.

moulds and fruit flys don't misteriously self-generate: Lazzaro Spallanzani tried to prove this theory, but he was refuted by Pasteur (I might be wrong), who proved that under certain conditions it was impossible for fruit flys etc. to appear...

Hairy Swede said...

The thing is though, I am a selfish person. I don’t want to have to take the trash out at least once a day. I don’t want to have to use smaller bags. I like using the bags I have. They fit a lot and I already get them from the grocery store.

I see the benefits of garbage sorting. I just don’t see that it is worth my time always. Cost benefit analysis if you will. And I have decided my time is more important than pulling an apple core out. I’ll pull recyclables out, cardboard, cans, all thatgood stuff. But I’m not ging to sort my hushållsavfall.

Anonymous said...

have you ever spent hours (let's say in a week) waiting for a bus of an inefficent public transportation company?
have you ever queued for hours in front of an office where ten guys are supposed to help you but just two of them are actually available?
have you ever wasted your time because of other's inefficience, lazyness, ecc.?
that's a waste of time!

Hairy Swede said...

I sure have (SL)
I sure have (Arlanda and SEB)
I sure have (my previous job in Uppsala)

they are all a waste of time. Which is exactly why I want a garbage disposal. Gotta save my time whenever I can.

Jonte said...

The problem is the dimension of our sewage system. They can't deal with all the waste that would have to go through them. The sewage plants are also seldom able to take care of this kind of waste. But! In some areas it's ok to use a garbage disposal, this is mainly in areas with new pipes and plants. When it comes to recycling a garbage disposal is much better since the waste get less kontaminated and can be used to produce bio fuels like gas to heat our houses or fill up our cars.

Hairy Swede said...

well I want my tax crowns going to a new sewage system then.

Jonte said...

Well, they aren't payed for by taxes. The are payed for by user fees. If you live in an apartment it will be included in your rent.